Actually, …Trump is Sort of a Democrat

People get on to Donald J. Trump for supposedly flip-flopping his party and ideology throughout his life. But if you really think about it, it’s the world around Trump which has changed, not Trump. He’s sort of an eighties Democrat frozen in amber and released in current year. The flamboyant and wealthy villain in the eighties blockbuster Back to the Future was actually modeled after Trump, which involved time traveling from the eighties to 2015, so maybe there’s some synchronicity going on here.

Within the time period between Marty stepping into his time travel DeLorean to stepping out around the time of the first Republican primary debates, the Democrats have transformed from being an implicitly white, worker-friendly, pragmatic and protectionist party of government-friendly solutions and humble foreign policy into a minority grievance mob with a neocon foreign policy approach which is explicitly and overtly anti-white. Trump’s minority-friendly and immigrant-friendly, but in an eighties manner, back before it all reached this point of self-parody.

Even the Republican Party is dominated by multiple Cubans who recently washed ashore, a man whose love of Mexico exceeds any Japanese anime nerd’s love of Japan, a man whose Goldman Sachs wife advocates for a transnational North American super-state at secretive Council of Foreign Relations conferences, and an angry libertarian manlet who takes the side of cop-killing thugs against law and order.

The argument that the government is racist because more Black people are locked up for violent crime belonged in a Black Panther crackhouse in the eighties. Now that whole conversation, whether cops are too hard on violent thugs, is standard faire in the conservative party’s national conversation. Trump’s firm stand in support of law enforcement against drug dealers and gangbangers in the New Hampshire debate is now a bold stand for a Republican, …but it’s generic standard boilerplate for an eighties Democrat.

At this juncture, an eighties Democrat is a conservative beacon of traditional values relative to what the supposedly “conservative” Republican Party has on offer. At some point in the past few decades, the DNC crossed that line from merely being inclusive of and supportive of immigrants, minorities, and women into a party machine which aggressively and explicitly scapegoats white males. The GOP ain’t much better on all that, and it’s even worse on the corporate cronyism and warmongering.

Some smarmy Republican operative declared a few weeks ago that “Trump’s not a Republican. He’s a Democrat who happens to hate Mexicans.” There’s some truth to that, actually. But the truth condemns the two parties’ elites more than it condemns Trump. There are too many Mexicans here, after all, and even an impressive share of Mexican immigrants are inclined to agree. We all know you’re not allowed to say that in 2016, but a time traveler from the eighties would almost certainly make note of it.

Trump didn’t leave the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party left Trump, …and tens of millions of other White Americans. America’s monolithic political machine has evolved a great deal in the past few decades, but the American people themselves and Donald Trump haven’t really. They still want fair trade, sane immigration policy, a fair economic playing field, and investment in our nation’s infrastructure. The only thing that’s really changed is their mood, a mood which Trump masterfully mirrors as his face turns pink with rage at a political system rigged to thwart the will of the voter.

151 Comments

marc beesley

Seems to be a case of trump better than nothing. Saviour of white america he is not I’ve even seen NS saying he’s great. Wake up he’s a capitalist who don’t give a crap about white Anglo Americans. Boy oh boy he cares about israel that’s for sure! That should tell WN all they need to know.

5n4k33y35

We ought to elect Trump before we begin to worry about his probable Zionist foreign policy. There’s no one else to vote for. After that, we must challenge his Zionism very strongly.

EricStriker

We should all vote Trump, but don’t put all your eggs in his basket. “Alt-Rights” that have basically turned their entire news apparatus’ into Trump campaigns are mostly projecting their own feelings onto him, because he’s a very charismatic guy who keeps things vague, but is the closest to the majority opinion any American Republicrat candidate has been in many decades.

In the end, we don’t really know who he is or what he’s going to do. If Trump ends up being what Alexis Tsipras has become to the Left, we’re going to be just as discredited as they are right now. This could explode in our faces.

The goal is to expect disappointment from Trump (and he will disappoint if he takes power), and then be in the right place at the right time to scoop up the agitated but betrayed people who backed him.

5n4k33y35

After Rand Paul who became wobbly and quiet, Trump was the main guy saying don’t fight Russia over Syria. Merely avoiding the latest contrived catastrophe which the Israelis are engineering is reason enough to vote for Trump and not regret it.

Trump cannot undo the past several decades of jewish “civil rights” and “progress”. I never did get the idea Trump could do very much beyond the scope of the American presidency, which has a very limited scope in many ways.

Richard Peak

Well said. A war against Russia would be the death knell for the white race. Hillary called Putin “Hitler”

marc beesley

I’m in England just my opinion brother! Love ur view on these so called trendy hip alt right pricks. You carry on telling them what true Fascism is they ain’t got a clue. Victory hails to you.

Ezra Pound

Marc you people are too obvious. We are building something; you want to tear it down. God only knows why. These people attempting to create a rift between Traditionalism and the Alt Right need to be ovened ASAP. It’s a shame that this site seems to attract a lot of you people for some reason.

5n4k33y35

Gee. I was trying to build TRS up until I got banned. I considered it an imperfect, work in progress. If I could connect with the guys in charge, they would appreciate my help, and would help them reach the next stage of racial “extremism”.

Someone should have intervened and said – hey, give him some space. He’s got nice ideas. Pro-Israel provocateurs won that debate over what should be done about me. My anti-terrorism focus was not appreciated.

5n4k33y35

I never really had any dialog with you until you went on the attack. I don’t know why you think you know me. There is no sense of familiarity at all here.

EricStriker

There is a huge part of the “alt-right” who are jew ass lickers, especially the realms of the Alt-right that are for-profit paleo-cons selling their obsolete wares to young people.

With that said, traditionalists, especially in the English speaking world, hurt the white movement in general with their rigid protestant dogmatism (including Americans and Brits who convert to Catholicism and Orthodoxy, but still behave like prots).

So there’s enough shit to shovel all around. We need a leader, a personality, to consolidate all these forces into a coherent ideology/worldview, and to drive the clowns, conservatives, and white-trotskyists out.

Ezra Pound

“There is a huge part of the “alt-right” who are jew ass lickers” -Could you please let me know who these individuals and organizations are so I can avoid them? Please list specific websites, individuals, forums, organizations and anything else you think is relevant. Thanks.

EricStriker

There are two or three websites that are gradually injecting pro-Israel, pro-fag, and pro-Jew sentiment into the alt-right. The only thing holding them back from being even more radically pro-Jew is that they fear their fans will desert them. Here is one example of subtle Judaizing : http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/02/will-jews-change-sides/

Many times in the comments section on the DS and TRS you will find a lot of recent libertarian converts and others who may just be Hasbarats promoting Zionism as well. This is the most common in the Alt-right websites that have swan dived into the neoconnish counter jihad “kebab” sphere.

CC for example, believes that a future white state ought to financially/militarily support enemies of Islam in foreign lands. And also supports Israel, albeit coming with some confusing explanation for it. Sounds a lot like what Lindsay Graham supports.

Ezra Pound

Its disappointing that this is all you could come up with, Eric. I dislike C-C myself, but that is one small, very small, part of the Alt Right, and one which is routinely mocked and criticized by large portions of the movement. I for one am glad that the Alt Right is not a one-faction echo chamber (we would be much weakened if we were), even though I have to grit my teeth every time I have to deal with pagan larpers, fag defenders and the “all people deserve their own sovereign territory” position of Greg Johnson, which I believe to be untenable and dangerous (e.g., the criminal Jewish state). I disagree with those things. But I don’t think people who believe them should necessarily be expelled and separated off as if they were pure chaff. Having different personalities with different ideological stances is good because it opens up a lot of possibilities, at this point anyway.

Feel free to disagree, but having a single leader right now would be incredibly dangerous in my opinion. For one, he would necessarily be unacceptable to large portions of the movement for the simple fact that we have so many different beliefs among us. That would lead to divisions, competition and infighting. And the Jew rubs his mitts…. Second, having a single leader would put us in the precarious position of being one bullet away from dissolution. We need leaders, not a Leader, not yet anyway.

You’re saying DS and TRS promote pro-Israel stances because some people in the comment section say things? That’s really, really weak brother. You’re saying the good those sites do is somehow outweighed by a few hypothetical commenters? That’s straight up crazy talk. And I am not trying to be dismissive here. If there really was a problem with pro-Israel infiltration in the New Right, I’d be all over it. But there is not. And people like Snake Eyes are using this irrational suspicion to create and accentuate divisions. This all started after the NPI conference. That is not a coincidence. That dust-up created an opening for our enemies and they are exploiting it ruthlessly.

In my opinion, the guys trying to stick a shiv in our community’s unity are much, much more harmful than a few errant non-influential individuals promoting the acceptance of degenracy. Those people have ZERO chance of ever winning any significant converts. I was pissed off about Matt being black balled too, but that is no reason to start attacking the Alt Right because it doesn’t fit perfectly with our ideals.

No hard feelings though, Eric. I always like your comments and there’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to disagree like two brothers – have it out if we must, so long as we go have a beer afterwards. Its the people who say, “no, we’re not brothers anymore. This issue about which we disagree is catastrophic and I must now cut you off.” That is the behavior of the Pharisee Cult. People like Snake Eyes are a different story though. When your sole purpose is to create, accentuate and exploit disharmony, you’re dangerous and definitely not a brother. I am perfectly willing to entertain comments to the effect of, “this fag stuff bothers me, we shouldn’t accept it” but not comments that say, “the Alt Right is a hoax; it’s bad news; it helps the Jews; We should attack it.” It is perfectly clear what is going on there.

EricStriker

I’m willing to work with anyone who disagrees with me on lesser issues, but the Jewish question is not one possible to compromise on. I never said TRS and DS were bad because some of their commenters are pro-Jew, either, just that some of their paleo-conservative tinged writing attracts judaizers. I largely agree with you aside from that that the Alt-right is overall a very positive development.

5n4k33y35

Well now, DS is embracing a jew just today. The comments they tolerate and do not tolerate are a clue for where the proprietors of the site are, ideologically.

5n4k33y35

It’s part of a larger trend. Jews are barbaric and whites are being made to appear brutish and stupid by jew influence. White violence should be organized, precision violence in defense of the defenseless whites. Not this brutish barbarian violence the DS and TRS promote.

5n4k33y35

If it were only just that Andrew Anglin posted a video by Stefan Molyneaux, that would be the least of his problems. Anglin is unprofessional in every way and he doesn’t want to learn.

5n4k33y35

After Anglin proposed two loony ideas which appeal to the Israelis, border guard mandatory killing of even children and women who cross illegally, and forced sterilizing of Africans in Africa, I became suspicious he was pandering to Israelis. Who else wants to see that kind of proposal?

heraclitus

anglin writes satire, he was probably mocking jew Hypocrisy about immigration.

Also, David Duke said that welfare recipients should be sterilized.

5n4k33y35

The Duke proposal is that they should agree to be sterilized before they can receive benefits. This is not like forcibly sterilizing people in their own land. What Anglin has written is absurd, reckless, incendiary rhetoric. Don’t compare him to Duke.

heraclitus

“welfare recipients” implies that they are already receiving welfare, which means they are going to get sterilized.

Anglin, as far as my memory goes, never advocated sterilizing them in mexico, only when they crossed the border.

5n4k33y35

Don’t distort what David Duke said. He clearly meant, as a prerequisite for being a recipient of welfare, you should agree to be sterilized.

Anglin wrote: “I think they should be sterilized before they have any children, and while in Africa. And then never allowed to leave Africa.”
http://www.dailystormer.com/finally-finnish-politician-suggests-sterilizing-migrants/

He didn’t say anything about getting anyone to agree to being sterilized. This kind of over-reach only serves the jews.

If Africans breed too big a population, block their entry, send them back, or annihilate any invasion force of militants the send. We can easily defeat an invasion of Africans, IF WE CAN EXPEL THE JEW SABOTEURS FIRST.

heraclitus

” as a prerequisite for being a recipient of welfare, you should agree to be sterilized.”

Either no welfare or sterilization.

Either don’t migrate or get sterilized.

It’s worth keeping in mind that the jews are doing this on stolen land, in a place that all abrahamic faiths consider sacred, jews would be some of the most vocal critics of such a policy in the west, and they won’t even stay IN Israel and leave the west!

Sterilizing african migrants for nationalism and doing it for zionism are completely different for these and other reasons.

5n4k33y35

Don’t insist on staying. Sterilized or not, that’s your choice, but get out of Europe. That’s what I’m saying.

EricStriker

Jews allow Ethiopians into Israel for PR reasons, to prove that Israel really isn’t a Talmudic Nazi (in the Hollywood sense) state to critics. It’s all a lie , however.

In truth, blacks aren’t actually considered Jewish, even if they have practiced Judaism for many generations. Hence why in Israel, Ethiopians are technically citizens, but have to go to racially segregated schools, subject to be used as slave labor, are sterilized against their will, and used for front line infantry/cannon fodder positions in the IDF.

I have no moral qualms with ethical sterilization in cases of extreme heritable illness (As long as there are checks and balances, like the Third Reich sterilization court), but inviting a whole race of people for slave labor and cannon fodder and then sterilizing them without their knowledge is completely unethical and Jewy.

Ezra Pound

“It’s absurd, reckless, incendiary rhetoric.” – Sounds like you need an SJW hugbox you fairy.

5n4k33y35

I trust David Duke to always resist the jews and I don’t trust Andrew Anglin. David Duke has been at this for many decades. I know you “Alt Right” guys like your favorite jews more than you like David Duke. I don’t know why you’re even here.

Ezra Pound

Israelis use toilet paper too, so anyone who advocates using toilet paper is an Israeli shill. That is the level of your reasoning. You’re a fucking fraud and you NEED to be ovened.

5n4k33y35

You are obsessed with me. I only want nothing to do with you. Nobody here knows who you are. I already disclosed my identity to a Trad Youth writer. I’m sure you have not.

This problem of jewish imposters harassing the sincere Fascist men is going to require an internal forum so that every participant is identified, so that jews and israeli sympathizers cannot hide behind anonymity.

Ezra Pound

Literally all you can do is accuse people of being Jews. It’s not even worthy of contempt. And since your reputation is already completely demolished everywhere, there’s really no point anyway. Matt I hope you do not let this guy actually get involved with TradYouth in any of its essentials as that would surely invite disaster. But I won’t harp on it anymore. If you want to let this guy use your site as a launch pad to attack the unity of Traditionalist and Alt wings of the dissident right, that’s your prerogative.

5n4k33y35

I’m not a youth, pinhead. Trad Worker Party is for ordinary white men.

Heimbach and his associates are qualitatively different from you guys who think this Fascism is merely entertainment. Clowns over there. Ordinary white men over here. Understand?

Ezra Pound

Matt do you see how he tries to create these rifts? As if we were not all white men? What is this guy trying to do with that kind of tactic? The only purpose to try to disrupt what you’ve built. #Forewarned.

5n4k33y35

Quit acting like a Communist. We are not all united. You are trying to gloss over the qualitative differences.

Just for your insolence, I’ll say it directly: Matt Heimbach is more important than Richard Spencer. There is an inherent hierarchy and within that hierarchy, I can tell you now that Matthew Heimbach exceeds Richard Spencer.

I hope that “rustles your jimmies”. I hope you find it divisive because I don’t like your group hug mentality under the approving gaze of jew-mixling, Stefan Molyneaux.

5n4k33y35

Why the heck do you think Matt Parrot and Eric Striker agree with your jewish clique?

You guys like Jared Taylor more than David Duke! You’re here in Duke territory and whining like a frigging hallway monitor at school. Whaaa! He’s divisive. Whaaaa!

You’re divisive you worthless Liberal puke! David Duke was the Grand Wizard of the KKK and has been resisting the jewish elite for decades and you guys never say a word of gratitude for David Duke.

And here you think Confederate / Fascist affiliated, Matt Heimbach and Matt Parrot can be persuaded to get under the umbrella of your soft right, phony Fascism! You don’t recognize the qualitative differences.

I like Jared Taylor, yet I recognize he’s not in league with David Duke and Jared Taylor is too weak on the jewish problem. You guys are constantly signalling your closeness to Amren, and not the KKK.

Ezra Pound

Does this ridiculous rant not speak for itself Matt? “You guys like Jared Taylor more than David Duke!” What does that even mean? Are people not allowed to prefer one pro-white activist over another? Isn’t there room for different methods? Don’t we benefit from having a broad spectrum of methodologies? These irrational and hysterical rants against the community are why he has been banned everywhere.

5n4k33y35

Jews! Your acceptance of jews is the qualitative difference. This isn’t rocket science.

Here you invoke the idea of “community”… I am “against the community”. You sound just like a Commie! You disgust me.

Ezra Pound

Matt, if you recognize my screen name, you know that just about every comment I have posted here over the last 2 years or so has been Jew-wise to the hilt. This guy is a nutcase out to wreck our community and I hope you can see that.

Ezra Pound

No one ever said it was, which is why your paranoid comments come off looking so bizarre and unhinged.

5n4k33y35

You followed me here from there. I’ve told you more than once. I don’t know you. I never dialogued with you. I don’t want to know you.

Ezra Pound

That’s OK. You’re already well-known and your name is being circulated. You’re poison and we’re going to make sure the damage you do is limited.

5n4k33y35

That is because, I make myself known as a matter of policy. The passive aggressive tactics which have been used have made it clear, some guys are acting in bad faith.

I’m here to let them know, where ever they are, they will not enjoy impunity to insult our Fascist martyrs, nor will they enjoy impunity to insult our senior leaders who are living today.

I’m here to let them know, I think those guys who allow these provocateurs to insult senior leaders are on thin ice. If they are acting in bad faith, they better not show their faces when the real guys get together or those guys will leave with a bloody nose.

So far, the tactic has been to allow anonymous insulters to hit and run, but I want to make it clear. Take responsibility for the content of your comment threads. You draw suspicion to yourselves by tolerating the insulters while you ban those who would make them accountable.

Ezra Pound

Don’t engage with 5n4k33y35 as if he were a real person. He is an infiltrator who has been sent in to disrupt the dissident right and create divisions. All of his comments revolve around attacking every dissident right site/personality. He has been banned from all of them for his idiocy. Interact with him at your own risk, but always remember: rat poison is 95% wholesome, scrumptious rat food, but its the 5% of poison that kills. 5n4k33y35 posts a lot that is true, but he is only posting it to get you to believe he is one of us. If you read his comments about Jews closely, they are always very try-hard. Almost like a Jew pretending to be an anti-semite….

heraclitus

EricStriker has a lot of good things to say, but he gets triggered way too easily by a few things.

At the very least people should be anti-war, opposed to mass media, and anti-globalist. Being jew-wise and nationalist are natural evolutions from those positions.

C-C, despite it’s faults, still publishes many works by alain de benoist, dugin, and other writers who are the backbone of our movement.

5n4k33y35

I don’t know why so many on the “Alt Right” appear to turn their noses up at David Duke. I’m going to buy “My Awakening” by David Duke.

EricStriker

There are definitely 1 or 2 things that trigger me and immediately put me in a defensive stance, admittedly. One of them is conservatism in any of its iterations (because I know most WN’s come from conservative backgrounds, and easily revert to it like recovering alcoholics do when they have just one drink), and the other is gradual attempts to cut down trees for Jews to roam freely.

EricStriker

I think those in favor of Zionism should be expelled, because if you don’t expel them first, they will eventually rise to prominence (thanks to outside support) and expel you later. Jew-apologists cannot allow “anti-semites” to exist because A) it hurts them with their Jew donors (Why they’re apologists to begin with) and B) the anti-Semite usually has the better argument. Has happened time and time again (Buckley vs Sobran, GOP vs Buchanan, Tradcats vs E. Michael Jones, etc) in American “right-wing” politics, and it will happen again.

5n4k33y35

The pro-jew, pro-fag content is poisonous, while the pro-terrorist content is like being stabbed. The pro-terrorist rhetoric cannot be tolerated with Fascism any more than integrated society of jews or faggotry can be tolerated.

If you are going to lift the banner of Fascism, do not also hoist the Jolly Roger flag. If you are going to hoist the Jolly Roger flag, do not lift the banner of Fascism.

marc beesley

Only people I see convert to the RCC are usually Americans First there proddys then RC then orthodox who knows where they go from there!! Me i was baptised RC from birth I would never convert to anything else.

heraclitus

“With that said, traditionalists, especially in the English speaking
world, hurt the white movement in general with their rigid protestant
dogmatism (including Americans and Brits who convert to Catholicism and
Orthodoxy, but still behave like prots).”

this quote made the needle on my JewMeter move a little bit…

heraclitus

traditionalists aren’t “hurting” the white movement at all. How would they be?

It seems so bizarre for someone to say that kind of thing when they are
a contributor to a website run by people who fit that description.

Perenialists are just trying to create a spiritual link between different religions, complaining about that because it rustles your godless jimmies is a little reminiscent of a jew complaining about Christmas decorations.

.>>>>>>>>>>GO TO CHURCH<<<<<<<<<<

EricStriker

Traditionalism in the Evolian sense, and traditionalism in the internet witch hunter sense, are wildly different. This page leans towards the former.

I’ve got no problem with perenialism at all, I was referring to people who complain about that. You obviously misread what I said.

With that said, accusing people of being Jewish because you have the reading comprehension of a 20 year old black high school Freshman is chuckle-worthy.

EricStriker

The people who use theology they make up as they go along to prioritize attacks on other Christian denominations, or to try and exclude non-Christians (religious or not). That’s what I see often on the non-Evolian traditionalist blogs and sites.

heraclitus

that kind of thing isn’t good, but I think christian theology definitely has a place in our movement.

5n4k33y35

We’re not going to find anyone like Adolf Hitler, who had both the visionary leadership qualities and the political leadership qualities. We can still accomplish a lot as comrades, without any great racial fuhrer.

EricStriker

I disagree. Hierarchy, leadership, and subsequent consolidation that comes from this is important. Maybe 30-40% of things Donald Trump says overlap with our goals and aspirations, yet look at all the racial dissidents.

Combat 18 fans who call anyone that disavows violence a pussy are taking pics in cheesy ‘Make America Great’ Hats , religious fundamentalists are swearing fealty to a man that is in all honesty pretty soft on abortion/planned parenthood, and counter-semites like myself are down with Trump despite him talking about putting thieving kikes like Carl Icahn in charge of his “negotiations”.

Basically the whole “alt-right” is now a vehicle for Donald Trump’s campaign. That’s the power of the personality. Khomeini [ism], Peron[ism], it’s special men born to lead–not pandering committees–that lead social change.

That’s the power of vigorous, masculine, willful leadership. The masses are effeminate, and all the petty squabbles that hold us back in our maturing stage will dissipate if there’s someone who has a plan (any plan) and can convince everyone that its feasible if you follow.

I think Heimbach’s the only one in America capable of leading the national revolution, he has characteristics I don’t (being likable, patient, diplomacy, etc) and the balanced plan we’re all developing together is coming along great. I think the country club and homosexual wing of the Alt-Right agrees with me, since they do everything in their power to exclude him despite him doing nothing to deserve it. And mind you, nobody has any issue working together with queers or paleo-cons if they love our race and put it first, the problem only emerges when the homos demand that we accept their perversion and stop criticizing what it is doing to our society.

5n4k33y35

I first noticed Heimbach in a story on Amren about the white student union at his university. I donated to offset expenses because I wanted to see him victorious over those hypocrites.

Next time I saw Heimbach appear being interviewed by an old progressive on Russia Today. Good interview.

Obviously he has a lot of potential and we’ll do what we can to help him achieve more. I do not aspire to that level of media exposure.

I don’t know what will be my role, but along with my racial awakening, I’ve had a historical awakening and geopolitical awakening. Now I want to contribute whatever I can to achieve something great, and leave a lasting legacy.

Also, I need to get on with my career and my life, as I’m adrift at age 40 and still single.

I remain convinced that our success requires building a network of like-minded men. The network we need is that which is composed by men who refuse any compromise with Israel, refusing even to recognize the legitimacy of Israel.

If we can make a foreign policy think tank of white men who do not recognize the legitimacy of Israel, we have the core to begin to establish the segregated white intelligence service. This is very exciting. Exciting times. Too bad I’m so old already.

eternalscythia

Well said! What do you make of those who follow indigenous European religions?

marc beesley

Ovened??! Thank god we don’t have all this alt right stuff here in uk.

Ezra Pound

There’s a name for “all this alt right stuff”: humor. And you’re right, you limeys definitely don’t have it. If only the good guys had won World War 2, you all would be a lot better off. Now stop worshiping your sacred holofraud and join your own team.

5n4k33y35

To be fair to the oven enthusiasts among the commenters there, I’m no less prepared for purging those men who are accomplices of the racial cold war enemy.

However, they will mistakenly assert the right to purge those who are the true Fascists, while they themselves are phony Fascists or else suspect as jews.

Their problem is their lack of comprehension, lack of fully awakened white racial awareness, and incomplete development of manhood. So they mistakenly believe brutality can be substituted for racial extremism.

These are the types of commenters who are allowed to disparage superior men in these phony Fascist forums.

They do not make a distinction between trolling and normal discourse, not unlike the intelligence services doing psy-ops on the domestic audience, rather than the foreign population.

They are a mess. Their comment sections is like the wild hair of a barbarian hippie, yet they imagine they are somehow Fascist affiliated. First impose order on your comment threads! Then we can talk about institutional Fascism.

Ezra Pound

The ovens are a JOKE. It is a way to mock the holocaust religion. No one is serious about putting people in ovens. ….It would be totally inefficient.

Ezra Pound

“their lack of comprehension, lack of fully awakened white racial awareness, and incomplete development of manhood” – You talk like a Jew-cum-fake white nationalist psychoanalyzing some hapless goy.

marc beesley

Plus I don’t wanna tear it down but all I see is Americans arguing online all the time. I really hope you can get on the right track & achieve something.

Ezra Pound

Thanks to TRS a/k/a the “Alt Right”, white men all over America are organizing real-life political gatherings. I have attended two so far. Are you guys doing something similar? I was only joking about the “limey” comment too. It was meant in a spirit of good cheer.

5n4k33y35

There are decent Englishmen still, including but not limited to David Irving, Nick Griffin, Jez Turner, and Joshua Bonehill. It is the ruling classes of the Anglo nations who are making us all look bad. (I’m of Anglo-American background myself.)

UKIP’s Nigel Farage is likeable and he makes some good points, yet he does not aspire to truly white Great Britain. He is not “extreme” enough. Let’s just hope he can lead UK out of the EU.

marc beesley

Joshua Bonehill shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence as turner or Irving or even griffin. He is a complete fraud & has been found out hence no one has anything to do with him. As for farage he’s against the eu & immigration from Eastern Europe but not immigration from rest of world!! We will have referendum on leaving eu let’s pray people vote to leave.

5n4k33y35

Joshua Bonehill is a young man, so I would be inclined to give him benefit of the doubt. I have not see anything particularly revealing about him, and I would not imagine a man his age would be set in stone, ideologically. I don’t know much about him, except he was jailed for a Tweet.

Obviously, Jez Turner is a more significant figure than Joshua Bonehill, as Turner has a greater level of geopolitical awareness and life experience. Jez Turner appears quite reliable and capable.

Marc Bahn

Matt, I don’t know how young you are but the 80s Democrats you describe pretty much ceased being that way in the 1960s. I was there. They’ve been the racial grievance party since JFK & LBJ.

EdwinWhite

You’re definitely right that the 60’s were a turning point, especially at the national level, but in some rural parts of the county there are still 80s style Democrats.

I’ve met plenty of them in northern MN. The arrowhead is solid blue, but the Whites up there are just as opposed to affirmative action / ‘progressivism’ as they are anywhere else in the Midwest. Most of them vote Democrat because they see the Republican party as being dominated by warmongering elitists and big businesses.

The U.S. is such a massive country that these types of political imbalances are bound to occur. There’s always a few regions which are behind the times.

EricStriker

White people support Democrats for economic reasons, IE , they’re not coming to bust up our unions, snatch away grandmas medicare, and turn us into 3rd world slaves (at least they pretend they won’t). Additionally, the Republicans have a well deserved reputation as irresponsible war mongers.

But now with Trump, you can expect all these white democrats to switch sides. Since Trump isn’t looking to fuck over the working class as bad as the other GOP candidates, there’s pretty much no real reason for whites to vote for the Democrats.

5n4k33y35

I have to tell you, I’ve had it up to here with the “trolling” oriented Alt-Right websites. They are full of it.

The trolling specialists haven’t got the sincerity of those who give a straight delivery of what they really mean.

Those infantile guys with their memes and trolling really are unworthy of recognition as Fascists. Fascists are not clowns. Clowns are not Fascists.

EricStriker

I agree, it’s getting stale. Mockery, trolling, and satire are important political tools to highlight problems in a time where we are not truly allowed free speech, but if it’s entirely composed entirely of obscure inside jokes, this dampens popular appeal.

5n4k33y35

The same guys call others autistic for non-conforming to their weird pro-Israel ‘Fascism’.

In their forums, just promote plain original Fascism, and they become hostile, you have the social sensation of irate jews closing in from all sides.

You are autistic. You don’t get it. Fascism is now for the Israelis to define.

EricStriker

You can’t be pro-white and pro-Israel. Right now there’s a big covert push by the Israeli government to spread hasbarah to ideologies hostile to Zionism (Alt-right, Left) from fear of BDS, my guess is that the people preaching that shit are either buffoons or Jew goons.

5n4k33y35

You guys should have treated Matt Heimbach more respectfully if you wanted to rope them into “Alt Right”. He’s a decent guy and your Alt-Right snubbed Heimbach at NPI while including Jack Donovan and the irrelevant, sleazy PUA/Game ROK, whose website banned me, BTW.

Ezra Pound

See, bingo. These people are trying to create rifts where none need exist. I took Matt’s side in the dust-up with Radix, but that is over, so anyone trying to reopne that wound should be recognized for what they are: enemies. You fucking spergs want to build a ghetto where we will always remain ineffectual. And all your posturing against Israel is entirely bound up with the fact that you like taking Muslim cock up your ass. You cuck for Muslims every chance you get and that is why you are banned everywhere. Now get in the oven you belong faggot.

5n4k33y35

Ideological purity is important. Don’t try to rope everyone into your failing idea of Israeli Fascism. You’re reaching out now to those guys who got the cold shoulder.

I saw Matt Heimbach wear the Hezbollah t-shirt. I told the TRS guys, Hezbollah included Catholics and Lebanon was 40% Catholic. They insisted on accusing me of terrorist rhetoric and banned me.

Russia supports Hezbollah. Orthodox Russian Patriarch Kiril and Pope Francis approve Hezbollah defending Christians in the Middle East.

Ezra Pound

You got banned from TRS because you cuck for Muslims non-stop and talk about how Anglos deserve to go extinct, not because you support Hezbollah. There is widespread support for Hezb in the TRS forums, yet none of those goys were banned. So once again you come off looking like a Jew: you tell lies about why everyone really hates you. They hate you because of your idiotic behavior, not because you support Hezb.

5n4k33y35

You are the liar. I insist on a white Europe policy. I said only white Muslims can be in Northern Europe, such as those I’ve seen from Croatia and Russia.

I said it was the Anglo Protestants who betrayed mainland Europe in WWII. I don’t want the Anglo governments, who hold the Anglo colonial acquisitions above Mainland Europe to suppress the Fascist awakening.

CIA and GCHQ are not on our side. You guys let yourselves get infested by deceivers and saboteurs, and this is the folly of those who are so afraid they won’t even get to know each other. You’re paranoid.

Ezra Pound

“CIA and GCHQ are not on our side.” – There you go again little Trotsky. You imply that your opponents somehow believe that CIA and GCHQ are “on our side”. Literally NO ONE believes that, yet you go on insisting we do. It’s bad faith, pure and simple. And people who have Christian consciences simply do not engage in it. Keep talking. The more you post the more you expose yourself.

5n4k33y35

I’ve seen myself, Eric Striker facing the same Israel-loyalists infesting the Alt-Right forums. I’ve watched him challenge them directly. Why would you appeal to Eric Striker?

Ezra Pound

The fact that you invent this mythological “pro-Israel Alt Right” is proof positive of your malignant intentions. If anyone who claims to be Alt Right is “pro-Israel” they are just inconsequential infiltrators like you. If there is one thing that binds the Alt Right together it is cognizance of the Jewish problem. I’m telling you Matt, if you allow this guy to keep pushing his divisive bullshit it is going to hurt the site.

Ezra Pound

There are plenty of valid critiques of the Alt Right, but you faggots are out to do one thing: keep us all divided and squabbling over bullshit. Enjoy your posting abilities here, because your reputation is shit everywhere else.

5n4k33y35

I got banned from Daily Stormer because I forthrightly opposed Andrew Anglin on his proposal that border guards should shoot children and women crossing the border.

I got banned by ROK because I said PUA/Game was drivel and their ROK authors should not visit TRS and disparage Adolf Hitler.

I got banned at TRS for insisting Hezbollah had a right to defend Lebanon and Fascists have a right to retaliate against the men of the Israeli Defense Forces to honor our Fascist Martyrs from WWII.

This is somehow a loss to me? I do not agree.

Ezra Pound

You can tell all the lies you want here, but I am pretty sure that some guys have kept a record of your insane posts from Radix and elsewhere. Just as soon as I get in touch with those guys we’ll being going over your posts and making sure that site admins know who you are. It’s time the Alt Right created a black list of known infiltrators and would-be disrupters.

5n4k33y35

I have my whole comment history. Go ahead and make your black-list. It is a comedy of errors and folly of those who only remain behind anonymity. You drive yourselves into paranoid mentality by hiding too much.

Ezra Pound

Just stay in you ghetto over at the Flat Earth Tribune and we won’t have any problems.

Ezra Pound

Yep, your comment history has a clear theme: the vast majority of your comments are devoted to attacking the Alt Right, accusing it of being pro-Israel (this is truly incomprehensible) and aims at tearing down all of the bridges that have been built over the last few years. So basically, you’re just another Kyle Hunt and Sinead O’Flatearth. Isn’t it interesting that you faggots all showed up around the same time?

5n4k33y35

Sinead McCarthy is not bad, but she is somewhat stubborn and defiant against Putin and Trump.

At least she sought approval from one of the senior patriarchs of white European racial defense, David Duke.

I’m glad Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump are challenging the crazies on the path of chaos. They are imperfect idelogically, yet they should not be dismissed, as their role is crucially important during a crisis.

My focus is usually foreign policy. Some guys talk more about pop-culture and I was quite well amused by some of the memes about “dindus” and “we was kangs”, but really, I’m more interested in what the foreign ministry of Russia says.

You show an infantile tendency towards a childish idea of Fascism. Some of the other younger guys are wiser, due to their traditional background. I’m reminded of the difference between local Amish men I’ve met (Amish not Jewish) and mainstream guys who are trapped in permanent adolescence.

If you don’t stand up forthrightly with racial manhood, you will remain a frustrated guy, somewhat less than a man. You can go away now.

Ezra Pound

Affected condescension. That’s another tactic of people who are pathologically incapable of good faith. You mouth the right things about Jews and foreign policy to lull your marks to sleep, then you start slipping in the poison about how if a movement isn’t 100% perfect, or if it doesn’t meet your subjective, parochial, special snow-flake standards, it should be totally scrapped and considered a tool of the enemy. We know where that kind of idiot autism leads: any one of the innumerable special snow-flake ghettos that dot the landscape of the dissident right, and the Jews and other PTB like it that way. People who push spergy divisions in the community are serving the interests of our enemies, whether you are doing it on purpose or not. Enjoy your ghetto. I am sure you and Sinead will have lots to talk about – concave vs. convex, hollow vs. flat, etc.

5n4k33y35

You strike me as an errand boy, dispatched to harass someone you don’t even know. Why are you so worried? If you want to argue more, you should suggest politely that TRS lifts their ban and I will resume normal activity and we can argue at TRS rather than here, distracting from TradYouth.

Ezra Pound

Eric, don’t engage with this guy. He is a known subverter who has been banned from every decent Alt Right site. Don’t fall for his concern trolling. He needs to be ovened.

EricStriker

He seems OK from what I’ve seen in the past, but he does seem to be too into this. Better to just do your own thing and do it better than constantly be fighting the others.

Ezra Pound

It is his constant lies and misrepresentations that make me (and everyone else) suspicious of him. What is the purpose of spreading lies about people in the Alt Right (e.g., that they are pro-Israel) other than to create drama and be an attention whore? That is all this dude does.

5n4k33y35

I don’t think I ever had a dialog with this “Ezra Pound”. He is obsessed with me and he is not an independent thinker. He follows instructions, I guess.

Eric – I suggest you only keep in mind the way Trump, with extreme positions swept aside all his opponents. I would not make any compromises with those who would settle for less than apartheid from jews and apartheid from all non-whites.

These Alt-Right guys rarely ever use the word Apartheid. I say it constantly.

There is a qualitative difference, and those who do not allow themselves to be assimilated will achieve something greater than those who compromise their principles with jews.

Ezra Pound

Hey Matt, this guy “5n4k33y35” is a known subverter who has been banned from just about every Alt Right site for his delusional non-sense. I am usually against banning, but this guy is a total nut job and you would do well to make sure he can’t spread his garbage here. His comment here is an obvious attempt at concern trolling. Sending this JIDF faggot to the disqus ovens where belongs.

Ezra Pound

Your pimping a guy who believes the earth is flat, and you think this will bolster your credibility. Get in the oven.

5n4k33y35

Flat Earth debate is for humor. Kyle knows Flat Earth is humor, I’m certain of this.

Your pro-Israel clique needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

Ezra Pound

Matt do you see what he is doing here? “Your pro-Israel clique.” Why would you let someone who is so obviously suffused with bad faith and who is willing to tell bald-faced lies come here and try to create divisions in the community? Its obvious what this guy and his flat earth brigade are up to. Cass Sunstein anyone?

5n4k33y35

Substantive disagreement is dismissed by your paranoid conspiracy delusions. You and I simply do not agree on substantive issues.

Israel cannot be the sacred cow of any true Fascists. Clearly foreign policy is what you and I do not agree on. You and I are not alike.

Ezra Pound

You’re so obvious its almost funny. Hope we never meet in real life.

Matt Parrott

I’ll try to read all of this at some later time.

In the meantime, I’ll just ask Snacksized to make his arguments in abstract terms, without directly taunting other factions. Everything being said can be said without naming other people.

Obviously, we disagree with most everybody else strongly enough to have our own separate project. Other platforms can be leveraged by others elsewhere if there’s any infighting necessary. Here’s not a welcome place for it.

5n4k33y35

Sorry that guy followed me here from TRS. I disclose my identity regularly in public and to Erik Striker via twitter. I’ll be glad to make your acquaintance on Facebook. I am Paul Gaskin.

If Heimbach’s people kept a donor database, you can find my name there, helping a little bit to offset costs of Jared Taylor’s appearance at Heimbach’s invitation.

They are too Liberal at TRS and one commenter got away with posting insults against Adolf Hitler’s character. You can get harassed constantly in their comment threads and the antagonists never get banned.

On Daily Stormer, some insulter said David Duke listeners are old and irrelevant and they can lick his boots an I told him watch your mouth, David Duke listeners would beat you up in person for that kind of talk.

Those clowns are not sincere, because with their emphasis on trolling and memes, they are never considered accountable for their rhetoric and they won’t ever engage in a serious discussion.

Ezra Pound

“They are too Liberal at TRS” – It is exactly that kind of incomprehensible idiocy that makes people recognize you as a sperg at best and an infiltrator at worst.

Ezra Pound

Guys like Snakeeyes are totally humorless and they want to make the community humorless too, just like the failed paradigms of WN have been for decades. As soon as we started trolling and making jokes, the establishment stood up and took notice of us and saw we were a threat. Humor is a threat to them. Snakeeyes wants us to drop the humor. I can only conclude snakeeyes wants us to stay in our spergy ghettos and stop being a thorn in the establishment’s side. QED.

Ezra Pound

Yep. Pretty much what I was expecting. Something to scare the kiddies. I’m going to print this out so I can threaten my kids with it, “If you misbehave, I am going to call Snakeeyes to come and get you!”

Matt Parrott

I don’t believe it’s either/or with the humor. As Anglin accurately noted, there’s a bit of a generational divide, one where even jew-friendly Millennials will gladly chortle at an outrageous gas chamber joke while many of us older folks are startled by them.

The imageboard-style dark humor is great. We shouldn’t…oven it. It’s not a substitute for more serious and polished projects. I’m not comfortable with some of the troll raids on mixed families where they insult the kids and such. But those aren’t my projects so they’re not my problem or concern to “police.”

Ezra’s got tenure and a great deal of respect. Typically, I’d just take his word and block a guy. But I’m going to give snake eyes the benefit of the doubt for a spell and trust that he’ll respect my request to ease up on the movement intrigue commentary.

As stated earlier, the fact that we have a separate project is implicit confirmation that we believe absolutely every other major group is doing it wrong in some critical manner which necessitates having an entirely separate project.

Ezra Pound

Eminently reasonable as usual Matt. I think the proliferation of independent projects is absolutely essential, they just need not be totally hermetically sealed from one another and in the long run there will need to be an anschluss.

5n4k33y35

Matt, you’re right. I just mentioned the same issue you brought up. I don’t know why such things are not more obvious to more people.

5n4k33y35

Alright, no point attempting humor when I’m dealing with a Liberal puke. The only meetings I plan to attend are white men only. I don’t want to know you, at all.

5n4k33y35

It’s a dirty and low down thing to do, to tell lies to make children afraid of someone.

However, this is the kind of thing Barack Obama was doing to Wayne LaPierre after the shooting in Sandy Hook Elementary.

I said if Barack Obama continues his sickening anti-white-man propaganda to turn white kids against decent white men like Wayne LaPierre, we should tell white children that Barack Obama eats white children.

Ezra Pound

You should come to a TRS Standard Pool Party. We’ve had several in Pittsburgh recently.

5n4k33y35

In Pittsburgh, the star quarterback, Ben Roethlisberger was falsely accused of rape, by a slut who went into the men’s room with him. He was sleazy but she was greedy.

Also, unrelated to that scandal, a fine singer emerged out of Pittsburgh, Jackie Evancho.

The TRS guys who actually do the podcasts seem like ordinary guys who I can relate to, but some of the anonymous commenters in the threads are really terrible.

Most of those guys are settled down and married, as are most of my friends here in Tennessee. I’m at a different stage in my life. I don’t fit in with my own friends anymore.

The guys themselves whom I grew up with are alright, but their wives and families are demanding on them and their wives didn’t grow up with me.

Their wives are all totally in agreement with Barack Obama and Bernie Sanders. If any of these guys vote for Trump, they won’t tell their wives about it, or they’ll be sleeping on the couch.

I have to accomplish something alone so I might as well focus on my career. I wish I could merge my career with my ideology, but so far no one wanted my help on their website.

Stormfront is where I could make a big difference as a web developer, because their software is so old. For whatever unseen reason, I would expect such a proposal to yield no results. I’m inclined to go back to construction, merely to avoid online distraction.

Ezra Pound

I don’t even think the issue is naming people, Matt. I think we should be able to talk about how we don’t like X’s politics, or Y’s stance on a, b or c. The problem with Snakeeyes is that he does not limit his attacks to specific positions or people, he attacks ***the entire “Alt Right” as a concept*** He says we need to quit trolling, i.e., we need to stop utilizing the most demonstrably successful method for spreading our message. Guys like Snakeeyes are totally humorless and they want to make the community humorless too, just like the failed paradigms of WN have been for decades. As soon as we started trolling and making jokes, the establishment stood up and took notice of us and saw we were a threat. Humor is a threat to them. Snakeeyes wants us to drop the humor. I can only conclude snakeeyes wants us to stay in our spergy ghettos and stop being a thorn in the establishment’s side. QED.

5n4k33y35

If you want to know what I really said about trolling, you can ask JazzhandMcFeels to verify this.

I said trolling should not be all inclusive to the general public, and “trolling” should be done as the intelligence services do it, with verified trolling teams.

Otherwise you get the false flag agent provocateurs who are there to make sure you cannot stay on message, and they will say things to make you look bad in the trolling sessions.

I said we should verify identity via skype so that we don’t get agent provocateurs who damage the reputation of the organizations.

5n4k33y35

I agree with Kyle Hunt. Until I see you guys show some spine, Alt Right IS the subversion you accuse others of doing.

Ezra Pound

Kyle “Flat Earth” Hunt? Yeah, keep talking faggot the rope is only getting longer.

5n4k33y35

A lot of bluster for guys who have not even established their bona fides. You rally around your jewish ‘fam’ and you get left behind.

Ezra Pound

You take your strategy right from the Trotskyite playbook. Like I said, enjoy posting your garbage here because it is just about the only place that will tolerate your transparently divisive bullshit.

5n4k33y35

You guys should not have boasted so much and jeered at better men than yourselves. You should apologize to Kyle Hunt and NPI organizers should admit they made a mistake by not inviting Matt Heimbach. Quit your boasting and bluster. Nobody is impressed.

Ezra Pound

You argue like a dishonest person because you impute positions to your opponents that they do not hold in an attempt to induce them into taking the defensive. The fact that your ONLY debate tactic is to accuse people of being “pro-Israel” is proof enough of your fraudulence. You pick something so grossly false and offensive in order to try to overwhelm your opponent and throw them off balance. What right-wing dissident expects to have to defend themselves from baseless and insane charges of supporting Israel? No one, which is why you think such tactics will throw them off. There’s a name for such impudent and arrogant behavior: chutzpah. I won’t accuse you of being an Israel supporter, but you sure as hell act like a Jew.

5n4k33y35

I am the guy who said we should skype to verify white identity and filter out the imposters. One look at me and you could never think I was a jew.

I’ll definitely be verifying my identity with real comrades.

I would point out, you guys are the ones forming the circular firing squad, firing shots at guys who are more racial strict than yourselves.

I adamantly insist on apartheid and a white Europe policy and I’ve been unwavering. Not sure why you’re so picky about who belongs at your events. I guess Israel is your sacred cow.

Ezra Pound

“I am the guy who said we should skype to verify white identity and filter out the imposters.” Which once again shows your bad faith. As if it is possible to absolutely identify a Jew or an infiltrator by how they look. Seems to me like you were looking create some kind of bona fides for yourself by proposing a phony solution to a problem is essentially limited to a handful of people like yourself. We don’t need to SEE anyone, all we need to do is look at their behavior/words. Yours are perfectly clear.

5n4k33y35

You’re too afraid. You’re paranoid. I’ve been regularly disclosing my identity for over a decade because I do not rely on anonymity.

Ezra Pound

Please continue to do so. Hopefully someone is going to put you in your place.

5n4k33y35

One day my place will be the grave. Until the grave, no man will put me in my place because I’m one of those ordinary guys who says it’s better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

Light Division

An interesting angle, though it should be pointed out that in the 80s the Democratic Party was still the party of feminism, baby-killing, and minority coddling (though you are absolutely correct with your assertion that the “coddling” has now become explicit anti-White scapegoating).

Interesting nonetheless… have been anxiously awaiting more stuff from you on the current uprising, Mr. Parrott!!

Ezra Pound

Track is called “リサフランク420 / 現代のコンピュ” by Macintosh Plus, though the original source material is Diana Ross’s “It’s Your Move.” I was into those vaporwave artists when they had like 7 listeners on las.fm *fedora tip*

5n4k33y35

Parrot is quite right about the drift of the once white, working class, Democrat party having become a bunch of raving lunatics. A swath of them are likely to vote Trump.

What can a guy like Ed Schulz or Richard Trumka say, when the Democrat party undermines the white working class with immigration? Oddly, the wealthy Donald Trump is closer to the hearts of the white working class than those poseurs.

EdwinWhite

Mr. Parrott,

I know it’s completely off topic but I was wondering if you’d consider writing an article explaining how Southern Nationalists can work with other ethno-nationalists inside America. In particular, there are some pro-Whites in the Midwest who want to create a pan-Germanic ‘Vinland Nation’ and I think that such a nation would be an excellent ally of a free South.

The reason for this is that one of the biggest dangers an independent South would have to face is a wounded America that doesn’t fully collapse. Chipping a few states in the breadbasket off and letting them form their own country might be a good tactic. It could create a corridor which cuts America in two, making it more likely that the Western states would also splinter and form their own nations.

It’s just an observation, but Germanic culture ‘sticks’ better with the folks in rural Wisconsin and MN than White Nationalism does. In other places, like northeast Ohio, pure White Nationalism might work better.

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