The Other Argument Against Illegal Immigration

illegal-aliens-travel-mapWe all know what illegal immigration is, but has anyone ever paused to think about illegal emigration?

The big news in the illegal immigration camp is that thousands of young people (ostensibly under the age of 18) from Central and South America are flooding into America’s border states and Obama is calling this an “urgent humanitarian situation”.  The federal government’s response to this problem is to hold the illegal immigrants for 72 hours and then try to re-unite them with their families.  No, they’re not trying to re-unite them with their families in the countries that they left, rather the feds are actively working to re-unite illegal immigrants with their families already in America.  Illegal immigration doesn’t seem to be so illegal anymore with that kind of assistance from the federal government.  So long as they say that they’re “doing it for the children” it would seem that they can do no wrong.

Obama is right.  This is an urgent humanitarian situation, but it’s not the kind that we’re being led on to believe.

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 47,000 young immigrants have illegally entered America this budget year alone.  Just so everyone is clear, the fiscal year started in October.  We’re more than halfway through the fiscal year right now so that number will probably be significantly higher come Fiscal Year 2015.

Never mind the cost of housing, caring, relocating, securing and guarding, and feeding these illegal immigrants.  What these illegal immigrants are costing us is not the point of the argument, and it’s also a petty argument.  There is a better reason to call this an urgent humanitarian crisis, and nobody should be caring about it more than the countries from which these young people have departed.

There were 4,486 American servicemen killed in Iraq between 2003 and 2012.  That’s sort of a huge deal.  Now think about how many young illegal immigrants have come to America up to this point in the 2014 fiscal year–  ~47,000.  That’s ten times as many Americans that died during a ten year period in Iraq.  To help put this in perspective that would be about the same as 12 American servicemen dying each day for ten years.  If we were losing that many servicemen each day in Iraq or Afghanistan you can bet top dollar that we would have stopped those wars so fast that it would make your head spin.  That’s why Central and South America should be concerned about their problem of mass emigration.

These illegal immigrants aren’t replacing the numbers of people who died in Iraq, they’re displacing Americans.  These invaders cannot replace the numbers of those we have lost in war because they are not a people of our own spirit, culture, and identity.  These invaders are not bringing any skills or other measurable benefits with them, but they do bring plenty of diseases and other sicknesses,  When somebody comes to our land and wants to be a part of it we do not want or need their skills, identity, or history.  The only thing that they can contribute is their blood.  When their blood and biological stock cannot be assimilated into the host body without destabilizing the Culture and the People there is no need for them.

More importantly than whether or not these unbounded waves of DREAMers will disrupt American society, which they most certainly will, is whether or not their own countries will have sufficient stock and brains to carry on.  This extended and steady movement of people from Central and South America has the possibility of creating a significant generation gap.  Does this sound like a ludicrous impossibility to you?  If you’ve been keeping tally of the numbers it shouldn’t sound implausible at all.  There’s an illegal alien population in of at least 11.5 Million people in America right now.

I don’t know what will happen to these countries that are losing their youth and untold numbers of adults to emigration.  Illegal immigration is a problem that we get to deal with, but the host countries should be making laws to restrict illegal emigration.

We know that it’s not a good idea to let culturally and biologically alien people into our own country.  We’ve been down that argument before and played it out to death.  The one that nobody is talking about is controlling illegally exiting a country, and far as I can tell the losing countries can’t control who comes or goes.

A country should be concerned about losing its youth and young adults to illegal emigration.  Societies are made stable by the transfer of knowledge, lifestyles, customs, lore, myth, and legend from the young to the old.  The old people aren’t leaving with the young and this doesn’t leave anyone to carry their torch.  This doesn’t mean that the young people aren’t learning anything to pass to the next generation, but what they are learning is so far removed from their parents’ heritage that they will be totally alien even to their own people within a single generation.  Should those young people try to go home after living their formative years in America they will be as a stranger in a strange land, nor will they be in any better shape to become assimilated Americans.

Who do you think that South and Central America will blame when their society and culture is so sufficiently destabilized that the whole world can see its effects?  They’ll blame America.  They’d be right to blame us, too.  Nobody has been a stronger proponent for open borders, multiculturalism, and globalism than our own elected leaders.  When that day comes don’t let them say that we didn’t try to warn them nor that we didn’t try to stop it.

The globalist and cosmopolitan programs that Western powers and Culture Distorters are pushing is to the detriment of all.  We should be opposed to illegal immigration because of how it will destabilize our own society and culture.  The Central and South American countries should be opposed to emigration because of how it will similarly destabilize their own society and culture.  We will lose by trying to assimilate alien outsiders into our own society, and they will lose by having lost a generation of young people to learn their ways.

Our own legislated opposition to illegal immigration is only half of the deal.  The countries to our south need to control their own emigration.  If not for the sake of stability and the promise of growth during our own lifetimes, then do it for the children.



“A boasting and brutal beheading video of four women by masked militia belonging to Mexico’s largest criminal cartel has once again underlined the nightmare awaiting the formerly European America once the Mexican Third World colonization of that country is complete. The video, issued by the Los Zetas (Spanish for “The Zs”) criminal cartel, is designed to strike fear into its opponents, government and other Mexican gangs alike.
It shows four women kneeling in a field, with hands tied behind their backs. They are surrounded by 13 masked and armed men. One of the men asks a woman about their ties to a rival gang, the Gulf Cartel—to which she admits that her brother is a member. After a few minutes, four men suddenly cut the women’s throats, and after they fall to ground, the helpless victims are decapitated.
Los Zetas’s date back to 1999, when commandos of the Mexican Army’s elite forces deserted and took up employment with the drug-trafficking Gulf Cartel. In February 2010, Los Zetas broke away from the Gulf Cartel to branch out on their own, and their connections with the Mexican military soon made them the pre-eminent criminal organization in their country—and, as the Mexican invasion of America has continued, into the USA as well.
Los Zetas are now Mexico’s largest drug cartel and are based in Nuevo Laredo, Tamaulipas, directly across the border from Laredo, Texas. This then, is the true face of the Third World colonization invasion which is currently underway in America.”


Keep the pressure on your reps in congress. Giving 11 – 30 million (nobody knows for sure) criminal lawbreakers legalization pure insanity. Plus, they could sponsor their relatives; that would bring the total up to about 50 million aliens in our midst. Of course, these new citizens will vote for the vile democrats and their socialist giveaways. Most of them will be unskilled, uneducated, low IQ etc. Stop this outrageous bill now. Don’t sit on the sidelines.You are not wasting your time. The American people don’t want this bill. You have to do all you can do to stem the third world assault:
– Contact your 2 US Senators and rep in congress.
– after biz hours, leave a message on your DC rep’s voicemail. All US Senators have multiple offices so it would be a good idea to hit all of the. Remember, be civil and don’t threaten
– go to NUMBERSUSA then go to the take action button. You will be able to send faxes to your 2 US Senators and congressional for free. (I also gave a $50 donation).
– use Business Reply envelopes to state your opposition to America’s insane immigration policies and the proposed amnesty. Don’t give the parties any money.
– join an immigration group like FAIR. Strength thru numbers!
– go to the RNC & DNC sites to email them.
– Use the media: call a talk radio program; write a letter to your local paper. If the media outlet is liberal, then talk about economic impact of massive third world immigration.


Yes, keep the pressure on. Congressmen/women have to seek re-election every two years. If they utter a single word on supporting illegal immigration in any way, let them know they’re thourgh and run against them or support and run someone else. It’s the only way to stop the proclivity these traitors have of giving this country, it’s culture language ,etc. away. Keep Main street America a safe, drug free, gang free, place for other generations.

Pere LaChaise

You write as though the flux of indigenous peasants out of Central America somehow poses a threat of ‘brain drain’ or even depopulation. To some extent it does the latter, but that is to be desired by oligarchs, who do not want to see more Zapatistas movements emerge as indigenous people gain enough sophistication and class-consciousness to mount a self-defense. Th e12 ruling families of the feudal state called the Republic of Mexico are only too happy to make use of the neighbor to the north as a safety valve to maintain stability on their latifundias. These oligarchs are working hand-in-hand with bosses here to lock down a system of universal peonage. You are right to fear the mexification of America, but the slave economy imported from the Barbados in colonial days already set up that dynamic long before we were born.

Emigrants leaving Central America only brave the hazards of illegally crossing the US border to vie for marginal jobs here because they literally face starvation in their underdeveloped home villages. Even just south of the border, in Tijuana, where the NAFTA-bred maquilladoras employ folks from rural Mexico and Central America, they can barely survive on wages far lower than most service jobs pay in the US, and prices in Tijuana are not significantly lower than in California. It’s shocking to hear how much they risk just to get to Tijuana.

You make the typical ‘conservative’ mistake of blaming other victims of an unjust economy for your own class’ discomfiture. Meanwhile the elites who depend on illegal immigration for nearly-free labor and a ‘job market’ where workers undercut each other in a race to the bottom, to grant our oligarchs a thick profit margin. Central American immigrants are doubly victims – at home where they have no rights in a colonialist system that has put (mostly indigenous) peasants in permanent penury – and here where they don’t really have rights either, and have functioned for more than a century as a ‘disposable labor’ pool that waxes and wanes to the rhythm of the market.

In recent years, since the banksters engineered the massive collapse of our class through the mortgage scam, saw a net decrease in immigration, in accord with this dynamic. If the US economy somehow begins to create a need for low-wage jobs in larger numbers (I won’t hold my breath), we will see un upswing in desperate immigrants dying in the Arizona desert to get to the fast food kitchens, car washes and Home Depot parking lots of Norte America.

Both political parties play us workers in America for fools while they engineer ways to flood the job market to suppress the minimum wage, creating insecurity that prevents workers from demanding more. Central American economies are already so intensely stratified that the loss of ‘surplus population’ has no effect on them that they appreciate. The British ideologue of industrialization Reverend Thomas Robert Malthus regarded XVIII c. rural labor much the same way, advocating they be disposed of according to his cold pseudo-Darwinian logic, in a way convenient to the growth of the new British industrial state which so benefited his class.

Your obsession with blood and identity blinds you to the long history of exploitation of the poor for the sake of the wealthy, who have never cared one whit for your idol of culture. Money has always had its own culture and tradition (hoarding wealth across generations to ensure perpetual class hegemony) and when convenient, they have made use of idealistic fools like yourself. Time to wake up and smell the coffee – the same brand here as where it’s grown in Central America.

Thomas Buhls

Malthus was a brilliant thinker and his fear that we would run into a shortage of food supplies and other goods necessary for life as a consequence of over-population is entirely possible. I’m actually more on board with Evola’s position though. Evola was more concerned about the more immediate problems of social tensions that result from having too many people in a given space all competing for the same under-paying jobs:

“Overpopulation exacerbates the problem of how to employ the workforces; it also unavoidably intensifies production processes, which in turn, due to their determinisms, strengthen the demonic nature of the economy. The result is an increasing enslavement of the individual and the reduction of free space and of any autonomous movement in modern cities, swarming as though in putrefaction with faceless beings of ‘mass civilization.’ This is the most important aspect of the problem.”

It’s entirely possible that we can get to the dilemma that Malthus predicted, but we’re going to be a very bumpy road before we do. You can read more about my interpretation of Evola’s position on over-population here.


This is beyond alarming…and well beyond enfuriating. The USA–her government and her citizens–MUST not allow Obama to continue to squeeze this nation more and more tightly in the grip of Socialism, lawlessness, and anti-American sentiment. He’s done it for FAR too long, and he’s done it FAR too blatantly. Most of all he’s been FAR TOO UNCHALLENGED.

At this point, because we stand by and watch this absolute travesty contine…we’re EARNING this disasterous re-shaping of America. Once the LAST bastion of Liberty is gone…it will take a more than a miracle to revive her…

Matt Parrott

You know, I’ve heard that tired trope innumerable times in the decade or so I’ve been an activist.

But are you really thinking about what you’re saying, and what it implies? Have you really grokked what you’re saying, beyond its utility as a sassy little zinger?

I have an image of Tecumseh framed in my study, and consider him one of my cardinal inspirations. He was a brilliant and noble man who surrendered his life and his genius in the service of his people, desperately attempting to rally them against the hostile invasion. My specific ancestors were that hostile invasion, and now the only Indians in Indiana are South Asian IT professionals. The lesson we can learn from the genocide of the Amerindians is that you must not trust the syrupy promises of the invaders, and if you allow your wrath, avarice, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony cloud your judgment, you and your people will be ruined and ripped from the book of life.


Arguing from a political correct platform of lies just leads to more distortion.Once you realize the true agenda of the Slave Master Parasites you very clearly see how the agenda is pushed to destroy the white European race from planet earth. These countries where the illegal aliens come from will never have a shortage of young because they breed like rabbits – so don’t expect their governments to stop their exodus. Not understanding who these Super Parasites are makes you prone to blame the whites for all the problems on earth. Second and third world people are also just ignorant victims in this sad process but through their ignorance offer themselves as useful instruments in the hands of evil. I pray for the day the third world and first world realize who their true enemies are and unite in action to stop playing along with this evil agenda of extermination .


Arabs are crowding into the United States because there is no fresh drinking water in the arab countries. The ocean waters surrounding arab lands are contaminated by a species of red algae which is clogging the pipes used to draw water out of the ocean and into their desalination stations. We should send the arabs back to their desert lands. We could sell arabs fresh drinking water drawn from the great lakes. If we did that, we could pay off the national debt (17 trillion) in no time whatsoever. Then, soon, we would have a wealthy, all middle class nation. We could pay the arabs ten cents for a gallon of gasoline.
Carrying Capacity estimates for the United States made by Pearl and Reed in 1920 predicted a population for the United States of some 197 million people by the year 2060. Lotka, A. J. (1925) Elements of Mathematical Biology pages: 66-68. We are now at more than 300 million people, an overload of some 103 millions. How much longer will it be until everyone in the United States dies in a home invasion, a civil war or from dehydration? (Feel free to run with this thread as if it were your own)


The creators of this reality have humanity by the throat. A plan that has been in motion for thousands of years slowly and surely. They want you to believe that you have freedom,you don’t. The segmentation of the planet into countries was their idea,so you can be more easly controllable. Now,that their plan is coming to culmination they wantto make sure that their servants,people,are in check. Every cog is known every detail is known,and they know your physical and mental capabilities to a degree you can not even imagine. They want to make sure that their colony,planet Earth and people,is intact,a prison planet. They don’t want you to know the truth,the real truth. They control everything:religions,governments,pharmaceutical, drugs,etc. Now, to keep the population submitted they give you poisons in the food like additives abrasives,water fluoride,chemtrails in the sky so you can breath soft metals to make you slow mentally,radiation from radio waves,plasma waves,wifi waves,cell waves,electrical devices like fridge,microwaves etc. The list can go on and on. Humanity is under the spell and hypnotize with the methods of controlling your consciousness with t.v. programss,adds,symbols,sports,religion,debates of parties like democrats and republicans,etc. They want you to believe that you run the show while you do not. They were the creators of racism,hate among ethnic groups,they don’t want you to know that the color of the skin is only an illusion and that people has more similarity that differences,a human family. They laugh at you all. They want the total explotation of your natural resources and the elimination of all life,and the total enslavement of the populace world wide. To reach their goals they create wars,famine,health problems,weather control, keep you in fear. Terrorism and false flags are their doing. This controllers are the artificial race,they don’t belong to the planet Earth. THIS IS A SECRET OF SECRETS hidden right In front of you noses,eyes. The so call the chosen people.

Pere LaChaise

Well. I don’t agree abou tthis secret cabal of what, Ickes’ lizard men? running the world BUT the line about the illusion of genetic difference between peoples deserves reinforcement, as it seems accidents of genetic heritage power most of the arguments on this blog.
Yesterday I spoke with an Albanian woman who insisted that her people’s appearance, as well as that of the Greeks’ and the Minoans (!) before them, has been changed due to the influx of foreign (brunette) genes coming from Turkish, etc. conquerers. I posited that Albanians are by and large pretty fair-haired to this day despite the supposed ‘muddying of the gene pool’. I impute a sense of victimhood from the lady, who seems to feel deprived of a genetic heritage. I tried to reassure her that genetic heritage of peoples the world over is very stable and cannot be easily overwhelmed by small numbers of invaders. For instance, women in English villages have been shown to bear genetic markers which remain consistent with those found in the remains of women buried in the same place thousands of years previous. Despite all the successive waves of invaders, changes in language, culture, religion – the mass genetic makeup of the original inhabitants of those villages to this day overwhelms all the incidental inputs accumulated over centuries and milennia.
This does not prove that English villagers of today look exactly like their distant ancestors. But it does help put to rest this irrational fear of being ‘replaced’ by aliens and their genetic inheritance. Granted, America is not the bastion of whiteness that it once was, but regardless of the exact hue of one’s skin or the curl of one’s hair, we all bear a similarity with our ancestors that is much more than skin deep. In that, we ought to be proud.

T.J. Thomas

Just going after the immigrants themselves won’t do any good. A lot of them are being encouraged to come here by American businesses wanting cheap labor. Go after them the way Arizona did (which got the business community there up in arms because they saw their cheap labor supply about to get cut off) and you’ll see a big drop in the numbers.

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